If the University of Wisconsin-Madison has a list of the 12 things couples fight about most, Clifton and Shay are here to… not fight about them at all.

In this episode of Anything But CliShay, they grab that list and go straight for the jugular: personality clashes, shitty friends, intimacy, commitment, money, work, leisure, chores, kids—the usual emotional minefield. Only twist? They’re weirdly aligned on almost all of it.

Shay admits that once sex stops, that’s her first red flag that she’s mentally checked out, and that yes, her love language might just be “touch me, pet me, and tell me I’m pretty.” Clifton confesses his low-key obsession with efficiency, dish racks, and not having ugly people on his boat. They unpack commitment without labels, talk about choosing each other every day, and why silence and space are not relationship crimes.

They also hit the big one—kids. Spoiler: they love cool kids, hate “shithead kids,” and fully agree that parenting style drama is one problem they’re never going to have… because they’re not having any.

If you’ve ever argued about money, sex, work, or who’s doing the damn dishes, this is the messy, honest, slightly toxic-but-healthy convo you’ve been waiting for.

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