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Rich Diviney, a retired Navy SEAL officer who led selection, assessment, and training at DEVGRU, joins me to discuss what separates high performers from those who struggle when things don't go as planned. Drawing from over 20 years of military service, Rich explains why skills alone don't define performance and why attributes matter most when facing stress, uncertainty, and difficult situations.
We break down the difference between skills and attributes, why resilience and perseverance are essential, how attributes influence leadership and decision-making, and why hiring based solely on resumes can lead to the wrong choices. Rich also shares how attributes can be developed through experience and deliberate effort.
Finally, we explore his approach to mastering uncertainty, including why fear comes from uncertainty and anxiety, how moving horizons help us focus on what we can control, and what Navy SEAL training taught him about performing under pressure.
In this video, I cover:
• Why skills alone don't determine performance under pressure.
• The difference between resilience and perseverance.
• How attributes influence leadership and decision-making.
• Why resumes don't always reveal the right candidates.
• How attributes like empathy can be developed.
• Why overplanning can work against you.
• How uncertainty and anxiety contribute to fear.
• How moving horizons help you manage difficult situations.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Skills vs. Attributes: What Really Defines Performance
1:16 Rich Diviney’s Navy SEAL Career and Deployments
3:11 Why Attributes Matter Under Pressure
5:28 The Iceberg Model: Understanding Your Core Attributes
7:23 Resilience vs. Perseverance
9:02 Why Strong Resumes Don't Always Translate to Performance
11:07 Can You Develop Your Attributes and Build Empathy?
15:28 Why Overplanning Can Hold You Back
17:04 Fear: Uncertainty Plus Anxiety
20:30 The Three Factors Behind Uncertainty
22:24 Moving Horizons: Breaking Challenges Into Manageable Steps
26:29 Dopamine, Deliberate Effort, and Managing Anxiety
30:26 Mind Gym: Mental Performance and Recovery Techniques
37:43 Rapid-Fire Questions and Leadership Lessons
44:32 Life After the Military and Final Takeaways
About Zac Armstrong & No Hype, Just Standards: Zac Armstrong is a former Marine, Naval Officer, and F-18 Pilot who coaches executives and high-performing leaders to optimize their biological systems, overcome burnout, and achieve peak physical and mental performance using precision data.
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Executive Health Edge is a physician-supervised health optimization program for high-performing men aged 40 to 65. Founded by Zac Armstrong, a retired Naval Commander with 27 years of service as an enlisted Marine, Naval Officer, and F-18 fighter pilot, the program combines strategic blood analysis at 0, 6, and 12 months, WHOOP or Oura biometric tracking with a smart scale, and 1:1 concierge coaching under physician oversight.