Most people are told not to talk about politics or religion. At Anything But Clishay, we pour a drink and dive straight into both.

In this episode, Clifton and Shay are joined by the unfiltered Daniel Nicholson for a wild ride through the personal, cultural, and often absurd world of religion. They tackle everything from what it means to be “spiritual, not religious,” to dodging tithing baskets and decoding church theatrics.

Shay opens up about growing up in a Caribbean Christian home and how that intersected with her modern spiritual practice. Clifton remembers how his parents used religion more as a moral guide than a deeply held belief system. And Daniel? He keeps it 100—as always—with stories that’ll make you laugh, wince, and rethink what you thought you knew about church.

They talk real stats (did you know 85% of the world identifies as religious?), real experiences, and real contradictions. Why do so many institutions that preach love fall into scandal? Why does being “good” often come with so many rules? And who decided the pastor needed a Rolls Royce?

The conversation doesn’t stop at religion. It moves through privilege, global inequality, and how much of our worldview comes down to where we were born. They ask the big questions—What happens when we die? Why are we here?—and land on some pretty beautiful, human answers.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt judged at church, rolled their eyes at a televangelist, or just wants to live a good life without all the guilt.

Because in the world of Anything But Clishay, belief is personal, laughter is holy, and asking questions is the real act of faith.

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